Comments on: How to Tell When You are Simply a Pair of Hands on a Project http://www.10e20.com/blog/2007/04/09/how-to-tell-when-you-are-simply-a-pair-of-hands-on-a-project/ Social Media Marketing Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:46:39 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Danielle Lanzillo http://www.10e20.com/blog/2007/04/09/how-to-tell-when-you-are-simply-a-pair-of-hands-on-a-project/comment-page-1/#comment-26890 Danielle Lanzillo Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:03:07 +0000 http://www.10e20.com/2007/04/09/how-to-tell-when-you-are-simply-a-pair-of-hands-on-a-project/#comment-26890 Gerard - Thanks for the compliment! I definitely agree with you in that an interested client with feedback is so valuable and that it's all about the approach. Jim - Thanks for commenting! I'm all for saving my sanity as well. ;) Shane - Excellent point and I will absolutely do a post in the near future about why we continue on. For me it boils down to truly feeling satisfied and accomplished when a project does go well. At least feeling satisfied enough to hang on when the going gets rough. There's also a tremendous sense of accomplishment in the rare occasion when you do manage to turn someone around. When we first started 10e20 I used to joke around that we were our clients "Internet Parents" and that they would come to us with an idea or goal and we would nurture it and help them grow and get comfortable online. At that point some of our job even included showing people how to use e-mail. It's evolved so greatly from then. Some of those people are still with us now. Gerard – Thanks for the compliment! I definitely agree with you in that an interested client with feedback is so valuable and that it’s all about the approach.

Jim – Thanks for commenting! I’m all for saving my sanity as well. ;)

Shane – Excellent point and I will absolutely do a post in the near future about why we continue on. For me it boils down to truly feeling satisfied and accomplished when a project does go well. At least feeling satisfied enough to hang on when the going gets rough. There’s also a tremendous sense of accomplishment in the rare occasion when you do manage to turn someone around. When we first started 10e20 I used to joke around that we were our clients “Internet Parents” and that they would come to us with an idea or goal and we would nurture it and help them grow and get comfortable online. At that point some of our job even included showing people how to use e-mail. It’s evolved so greatly from then. Some of those people are still with us now.

]]> By: Shane http://www.10e20.com/blog/2007/04/09/how-to-tell-when-you-are-simply-a-pair-of-hands-on-a-project/comment-page-1/#comment-26754 Shane Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:35:22 +0000 http://www.10e20.com/2007/04/09/how-to-tell-when-you-are-simply-a-pair-of-hands-on-a-project/#comment-26754 I'm firmly on the side of saving my sanity now. No fine line about it anymore. Danielle, I'd love to read a post that outlines why you continue to consult despite nightmare clients. At some point it seems like people would just give up, but there have to be good reasons why you keep going. I've read lots of posts like these, but none that tackle <i>why</i> to press through. I’m firmly on the side of saving my sanity now. No fine line about it anymore.

Danielle, I’d love to read a post that outlines why you continue to consult despite nightmare clients. At some point it seems like people would just give up, but there have to be good reasons why you keep going. I’ve read lots of posts like these, but none that tackle why to press through.

]]> By: Jim Seyba http://www.10e20.com/blog/2007/04/09/how-to-tell-when-you-are-simply-a-pair-of-hands-on-a-project/comment-page-1/#comment-26751 Jim Seyba Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:21:04 +0000 http://www.10e20.com/2007/04/09/how-to-tell-when-you-are-simply-a-pair-of-hands-on-a-project/#comment-26751 The descriptions of the signs you pointed out are on point and it's always tough to walk that fine line of losing a client or saving your sanity. I tend to lean towards the latter. The descriptions of the signs you pointed out are on point and it’s always tough to walk that fine line of losing a client or saving your sanity. I tend to lean towards the latter.

]]> By: Gerard McGarry http://www.10e20.com/blog/2007/04/09/how-to-tell-when-you-are-simply-a-pair-of-hands-on-a-project/comment-page-1/#comment-26710 Gerard McGarry Mon, 23 Apr 2007 09:36:05 +0000 http://www.10e20.com/2007/04/09/how-to-tell-when-you-are-simply-a-pair-of-hands-on-a-project/#comment-26710 Congratulations on taking a positive spin on a frustrating subject Danielle! As I get more comfortable doing freelance web design, I'm learning to spot problem clients. My preference is to walk away. Especially where a client thinks they could do a better job if they had the time to learn. Or they start tinkering with things that affect my work. What I am trying to establish more and more is that the success of a client's site matters as much to me as it does to them. We need to work to our strengths and build the best site possible. That means the client provides the knowledge of the industry and I use my skills to build them a site that will attract visitors and generate business. Having said that, there's nothing wrong with having your decisions challenged from time to time either. It just depends on how the client chooses to do it! Congratulations on taking a positive spin on a frustrating subject Danielle! As I get more comfortable doing freelance web design, I’m learning to spot problem clients.

My preference is to walk away. Especially where a client thinks they could do a better job if they had the time to learn. Or they start tinkering with things that affect my work.

What I am trying to establish more and more is that the success of a client’s site matters as much to me as it does to them. We need to work to our strengths and build the best site possible. That means the client provides the knowledge of the industry and I use my skills to build them a site that will attract visitors and generate business.

Having said that, there’s nothing wrong with having your decisions challenged from time to time either. It just depends on how the client chooses to do it!

]]> By: Erika http://www.10e20.com/blog/2007/04/09/how-to-tell-when-you-are-simply-a-pair-of-hands-on-a-project/comment-page-1/#comment-23113 Erika Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:39:54 +0000 http://www.10e20.com/2007/04/09/how-to-tell-when-you-are-simply-a-pair-of-hands-on-a-project/#comment-23113 This is a totally great summation of the "signs!" Look at for scope creep! This is a totally great summation of the “signs!”

Look at for scope creep!

]]> By: Tom http://www.10e20.com/blog/2007/04/09/how-to-tell-when-you-are-simply-a-pair-of-hands-on-a-project/comment-page-1/#comment-23061 Tom Tue, 10 Apr 2007 15:39:28 +0000 http://www.10e20.com/2007/04/09/how-to-tell-when-you-are-simply-a-pair-of-hands-on-a-project/#comment-23061 Excellent assessment of this Danielle. Excellent assessment of this Danielle.

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